Electric Fence – Manor Farm

Friday, June 15th, 2012

A lot of people will have seen the “electric fencing” around the horse paddock at Manor Farm next to the Barn Owl. Part of the wooden fence seems to be broken and the “electric” ribbon is only loosely attached in places.
It may be that the eventual aim is to put fence panels all the way around, but in the meantime, I was wondering just what the voltage in such an “electric fence” might be?

It seems fairly open and despite there being notices that it’s an electric fence, any toddlers walking by, or kids playing around it unsupervised (remember that kids have been seen playing in the balancing pond nearby), or even inquisitive dogs, could easily come into contact with the ribbon.

I was wondering therefore, whether – if it were live – such a fence could cause problems for people or dogs touching it?

It’s clearly meant as a deterrent for the 2 horses that live on the farm, but would it be dangerous for – say, kids playing a game of “dare”?


9 Responses to “Electric Fence – Manor Farm”

    Good Evening Alastair,

    Thank you for your clarity on this matter. The detailed information you have provided gives clear awareness of both – how it operates, and more importantly, your needs for having it there in the first place understanding the damage being caused, and the issues this creates thereafter.

    Haven’t seen your Peacock but will keep n eye out on our dog walks – if we discover it we will give you a shout!

    Hello All,

    Yes, as Barry wrote… I am aware of the issue but have no alternative but let the fence remain insitu.

    Several youths have been breaking and vandalising the fence for several months now. They have broken timber slats and timber braces and as a result the horses have escaped on two occassions. They have been reported to the Police and I have logged over 3 seperate events in which they have caused damage to the fence.

    I took the view that a low voltage, Duracel square battery powered fence was less of a risk than a charging horse (especially as one horse is over 1 tonne in weight)! The fence power is the same grade as you would use to keep chickens in, it is no threat at all in any way shape or form, (as listed and described by the Council Safety Officer in the comment 3 up from mine).

    I have erected signage in line with legislation (a minimum of 50m intervals – however the youths seem to be attracted to ripping them off the fence too).

    There was a previous comment regarding the fence flooring a person’s dog. This would not happen and the lady has somewhat exaggerated. It would certainly not happen if the fence was hanging out like mentioned above; the reason for this is that the fence would ground/earth out when touching the floor.

    There was a comment about an unsupervised toddler touching the fence… again who would have an unsupervised toddler walking around? Especially next to a balancing pond! Removing the electric fence from the equation… there is a moat behind the electric fence with 6ft depth of water in places. Again, the Duracel battery fence is a safer alternative to horses and a boggy moat.

    As Barry rightfully mentioned earlier… we are all adults here, so it does not take much to knock at the door, (entrance through vehicle gate or pedestrian gate to the rear) and ask the question, or even send a letter in the post should you be concerned to enter.

    Should anyone still have issues surrounding the fence, then please do not hesitate to call ’round.

    I cannot promise that the fence will not be pulled or damaged by youths in the future, but if it does get pulled from out of my property and onto the footpath, then the fence earths out. However, should it get pulled out again, I will endeavor to return it within my property as soon as I am aware of the issue.

    (Fence aside has anyone seen a Grey Female Peacock as I can not find her)?

    Regards
    Alastair

    Hi

    I spoke to the fence owner yesterday and he is now aware of the issue and will ensure it doesn’t cause a problem. The main issue has been kids who want to play “dare” have broken the fence and been pulling the other fence down. However he has been able to talk with the children involved and highlighted the problems involved with what they were doing.

    Cheers

    Barry

    PS – Nono – you’re right, maybe a couple of threads over my back fence might have been an idea.

    Maybe Barry should have taken this approach with his ol’ bike, might still have it if he did!

    Afternoon All,

    I have received an emailed response from; Martin Shields (Corporate Director, Services and Neighbourhoods) with regard the concerns surrounding the electrified fence:

    RE: Safety Concerns Surrounding Manor Farm Electric Fence.

    I have spoken to the Council’s Health & Safety Officer who has provided the following advice:

    They are run off a leisure battery and would give you a nasty jolt but no permanent damage as it’s a pulsing charge, so the reaction is to get thrown away. As long as there is adequate signage I believe the property owner is well within their rights to have the fence.

    On this basis there isn’t anything that the Council can do to prevent the fence being there?

    Regards,
    Martin Shields
    Corporate Director, Services and Neighbourhoods
    Gloucester City Council

    I was equally directed toward obtaining further detail via QUVL – I am still in the processes of making contact with them at the moment, and any further information will be passed on too.

    Steve

    Good Afternoon,

    I have made enquiries on behalf of concerned residents, and I would have been very alarmed if that had happened to any of my own dogs. I will respond again once I have received an answer from The Council.

    I have an answer, of sorts. I was talking to a lady today whose boxer dog had just run into the electric tape (it’s been hanging outside the wooden fence the past few days). As a result, her dog had been “zapped” and, in her words, “floored” by the shock.

    I think from that it’s possible to surmise what it might do to an inquisitive toddler. The lady I was talking to also wondered whether it was legal – or even just plain safe – to have an electric fence so close to a footpath and whether there shouldn’t be panelling on the fence, rather than the open structure that’s there at the moment.

    On the assumption that it is all entirely legal – and I have no reason to suspect otherwise – then anyone walking past the paddock with young children needs to be aware that the fence is live and can cause a serious shock to a young child, who wouldn’t be able to read or understand the warning signs.

    As for “knocking and asking the residents”, is that a serious suggestion with all the “Private Property” and “No Access” signs all over the place, plus dogs and horses running around behind the only gate that seems to provide access to the property ?

    While most fences of this type I have seen would give you a mild/medium shock, IE not one that would kill you but you definitely know you touched it, the main people who would know are the individuals that erected and maintain it, to know what they are putting through it.

    To that end if you are concerned, why not knock and ask the residents of Manor Farm as a first port of call?

    Evening,

    The best form of clarity surrounding this query would come from The Council’s own Community Safety Unit.

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