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		<title>By: Baz_k</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baz_k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darrjeff

While I would like it all finished, your comments are not really fully founded.  The shops and pub&#039; were dependant on a certain number of houses being sold and this condition was in place before the building commenced.  

The open space beside the park is quite large so I don&#039;t see what you can really complain about there, and there are two parks with I believe another one coming in the future.

The roads is certainly a concern of mine, I would like to see more finished, and for the kerbs that have been destroyed by builders to be replaced, but that will not happen until the buildings are finished.

I am all for having a go to get what we are entitled to, but you have to balance the &quot;what we have been promised&quot; with the conditions that were also in place.

Also, you do have to allow for our current economic climate, people are not buying houses at the same rate as predicted, so it makes sense that things will take longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darrjeff</p>
<p>While I would like it all finished, your comments are not really fully founded.  The shops and pub&#8217; were dependant on a certain number of houses being sold and this condition was in place before the building commenced.  </p>
<p>The open space beside the park is quite large so I don&#8217;t see what you can really complain about there, and there are two parks with I believe another one coming in the future.</p>
<p>The roads is certainly a concern of mine, I would like to see more finished, and for the kerbs that have been destroyed by builders to be replaced, but that will not happen until the buildings are finished.</p>
<p>I am all for having a go to get what we are entitled to, but you have to balance the &#8220;what we have been promised&#8221; with the conditions that were also in place.</p>
<p>Also, you do have to allow for our current economic climate, people are not buying houses at the same rate as predicted, so it makes sense that things will take longer.</p>
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		<title>By: darrjeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>darrjeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I  feel sorry for the people who got sucked into the whole Kingsway village concept created by the developers.

Where are the shops and pub&#039; that was promised? The finished roads and finished pavements? No large open spaces for the children to play in, all there is is a small area only made into a park because the the tree is protected and they can&#039;t build a house on it.

All we get is promises but no action.

To be honest the Name Kingsway Village was just marketing hype to sell houses and know they can&#039;t they going to turn it in to Kingsway Social Housing Village.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I  feel sorry for the people who got sucked into the whole Kingsway village concept created by the developers.</p>
<p>Where are the shops and pub&#8217; that was promised? The finished roads and finished pavements? No large open spaces for the children to play in, all there is is a small area only made into a park because the the tree is protected and they can&#8217;t build a house on it.</p>
<p>All we get is promises but no action.</p>
<p>To be honest the Name Kingsway Village was just marketing hype to sell houses and know they can&#8217;t they going to turn it in to Kingsway Social Housing Village.</p>
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		<title>By: Baz_k</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baz_k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashley, I think you are right about it being too late, as a lot of the issues we are dealing with were decided years before the first brick was laid! Either by Government stipulation, local Government planning and the builders attitudes themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashley, I think you are right about it being too late, as a lot of the issues we are dealing with were decided years before the first brick was laid! Either by Government stipulation, local Government planning and the builders attitudes themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good old Tony and his put up or shut up style of government!

Paul, I don&#039;t think anyone has an issue with affordable/shared equity housing, I for one think we need more of this type of housing I also don&#039;t think that anyone on this site has an issue with them, in todays economy it is the perfect step for most on the ladder to the UK obsession with total home ownership.

One thing I am concerned about though is the belief that by increasing the social housing is a good thing because it means we will get ammenities quicker, however if the make up of the village is wrong then were are all in for a nasty suprise, local shops etc are a magnet for undesireable&#039;s and thugs to hang around in the evening, probably creating a handy meeting place for our moped riding friends.

Why should we just be forced to accept what is going on in a place we all have invested a lot of money in with no say whatsoever? I applaud the attitude of some who push the &quot;it&#039;ll all be ok in the end!&quot; mentality but sadly I don&#039;t think it will and unfotunately I get the impression it&#039;s already to late to do anything about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good old Tony and his put up or shut up style of government!</p>
<p>Paul, I don&#8217;t think anyone has an issue with affordable/shared equity housing, I for one think we need more of this type of housing I also don&#8217;t think that anyone on this site has an issue with them, in todays economy it is the perfect step for most on the ladder to the UK obsession with total home ownership.</p>
<p>One thing I am concerned about though is the belief that by increasing the social housing is a good thing because it means we will get ammenities quicker, however if the make up of the village is wrong then were are all in for a nasty suprise, local shops etc are a magnet for undesireable&#8217;s and thugs to hang around in the evening, probably creating a handy meeting place for our moped riding friends.</p>
<p>Why should we just be forced to accept what is going on in a place we all have invested a lot of money in with no say whatsoever? I applaud the attitude of some who push the &#8220;it&#8217;ll all be ok in the end!&#8221; mentality but sadly I don&#8217;t think it will and unfotunately I get the impression it&#8217;s already to late to do anything about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Clive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baz...

We cross-posted (mine took me ages to finish) :lol:

I&#039;m not suprised to hear about the new (40%) level... no doubt - at least in part - due to the things I said.

Ashley,
&lt;em&gt;&quot;How has this ever been decided on before it happens?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
That my friend, is the &quot;Tony Blair&quot; style of governement... still alive and well in the UK :mrgreen:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baz&#8230;</p>
<p>We cross-posted (mine took me ages to finish) <img src='http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suprised to hear about the new (40%) level&#8230; no doubt &#8211; at least in part &#8211; due to the things I said.</p>
<p>Ashley,<br />
<em>&quot;How has this ever been decided on before it happens?&quot;</em><br />
That my friend, is the &#8220;Tony Blair&#8221; style of governement&#8230; still alive and well in the UK <img src='http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Clive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MissC,
Ahhh...OK - Gotcha :)

G Note,
No problem :) You&#039;re entitled to your opinion... and I do understand yor concerns, I just think you&#039;ll (eventually) find things are not as bad as you&#039;re assuming they&#039;re gonna be. But I can see why you&#039;d be worried.

Ashley,
That&#039;s a good/fair way to approach the subject IMHO... and I think you make some good points... I&#039;ll be interested to know what response you get.

Hi Paul,
Thanks for joining in :)
I have similar experiences with regard to private / HA tenants (which is one reason why I tend to jump to the defence of SH/HA tenants when folks make thoughtless remarks.
You&#039;re right about the depression... sadly it&#039;s the reason for the devaluation as well as the reason for the applications to change the concentration of AH/SH/HA properties.
On the flip-side, the sooner the number of residents increases, the sooner we all get some of the facilities we need (a point which - I believe Baz_k made earlier).

kingswayres,
I took care of your posts (thanks for the messages).

&lt;hr class=&quot;b&quot; size=&quot;1&quot; width=&quot;90%&quot; /&gt;

Folks,

There&#039;s another point I&#039;d like to make:

There are many families requiring affordable / social housing for many different reasons.

The economic situation will have &lt;em&gt;increased&lt;/em&gt; that number (not only are more people worse off, so unable to afford to buy, many will have had houses reposessed) thus - during times like these - the requirement for SH/AH will actually be increasing!

At the same time, the requirement for &quot;regular house sales&quot; will decrease (less buyers around and many wealthy folks less interested in investing in property / buying to rent.

Again, the decrease in private houses available for rent (or in the growth of that sector) will increase the requirement for SH/AH.

The decrease in requirement for private housing has also slowed down the building of new houses for SH/AH (IE: It is now 30% of a number which is growing slower than anticipated).

So... despite the fact that the %&#039;age will increase, it will still be a larger %&#039;age of fewer houses... at a time when it actually needs to be more!

I don&#039;t see how - in circumstances like these - we could have expected anything else!

The economy is the real culprit (for which you can blame Gordon Brown if you like - lol).

It&#039;s hard for people who have paid top price for housing only to see the value fall - but again - it&#039;s the economy, not the SH/AH tenants!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MissC,<br />
Ahhh&#8230;OK &#8211; Gotcha <img src='http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>G Note,<br />
No problem <img src='http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  You&#8217;re entitled to your opinion&#8230; and I do understand yor concerns, I just think you&#8217;ll (eventually) find things are not as bad as you&#8217;re assuming they&#8217;re gonna be. But I can see why you&#8217;d be worried.</p>
<p>Ashley,<br />
That&#8217;s a good/fair way to approach the subject IMHO&#8230; and I think you make some good points&#8230; I&#8217;ll be interested to know what response you get.</p>
<p>Hi Paul,<br />
Thanks for joining in <img src='http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I have similar experiences with regard to private / HA tenants (which is one reason why I tend to jump to the defence of SH/HA tenants when folks make thoughtless remarks.<br />
You&#8217;re right about the depression&#8230; sadly it&#8217;s the reason for the devaluation as well as the reason for the applications to change the concentration of AH/SH/HA properties.<br />
On the flip-side, the sooner the number of residents increases, the sooner we all get some of the facilities we need (a point which &#8211; I believe Baz_k made earlier).</p>
<p>kingswayres,<br />
I took care of your posts (thanks for the messages).</p>
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<p>Folks,</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another point I&#8217;d like to make:</p>
<p>There are many families requiring affordable / social housing for many different reasons.</p>
<p>The economic situation will have <em>increased</em> that number (not only are more people worse off, so unable to afford to buy, many will have had houses reposessed) thus &#8211; during times like these &#8211; the requirement for SH/AH will actually be increasing!</p>
<p>At the same time, the requirement for &#8220;regular house sales&#8221; will decrease (less buyers around and many wealthy folks less interested in investing in property / buying to rent.</p>
<p>Again, the decrease in private houses available for rent (or in the growth of that sector) will increase the requirement for SH/AH.</p>
<p>The decrease in requirement for private housing has also slowed down the building of new houses for SH/AH (IE: It is now 30% of a number which is growing slower than anticipated).</p>
<p>So&#8230; despite the fact that the %&#8217;age will increase, it will still be a larger %&#8217;age of fewer houses&#8230; at a time when it actually needs to be more!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how &#8211; in circumstances like these &#8211; we could have expected anything else!</p>
<p>The economy is the real culprit (for which you can blame Gordon Brown if you like &#8211; lol).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard for people who have paid top price for housing only to see the value fall &#8211; but again &#8211; it&#8217;s the economy, not the SH/AH tenants!</p>
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