Comments on: Access Problems Again http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/news/access-problems-again/ Community blog for residents of Kingsway Village, BY residents of Kingsway Village, Gloucestershire. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:56:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Clive http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/news/access-problems-again/#comment-2875 Clive Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:02:57 +0000 http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/?p=2188#comment-2875 Hi darrjeff, Baz_k answered that question <a href="http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/kingsway-village/general-questions-and-comments/#comment-2866" rel="nofollow">here</a>: <blockquote>"Yes the camera is there to deter people. However to be a real deterrent, someone has to act upon what it sees and that is not happening."</blockquote> Hi darrjeff,

Baz_k answered that question here:

"Yes the camera is there to deter people. However to be a real deterrent, someone has to act upon what it sees and that is not happening."

]]> By: darrjeff http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/news/access-problems-again/#comment-2873 darrjeff Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:30:47 +0000 http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/?p=2188#comment-2873 If there is a camera at the underpass, why are not people being fined £1500 every time they use it? If somehow they are dodging the camera, why not put up another one, or if not working why not fix it? If there is a camera at the underpass, why are not people being fined £1500 every time they use it?
If somehow they are dodging the camera, why not put up another one, or if not working why not fix it?

]]> By: holbeach miserable http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/news/access-problems-again/#comment-2753 holbeach miserable Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:16:28 +0000 http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/?p=2188#comment-2753 I also dont think that the undrepass should be used, everybody who purchased a home on Kingsway was informed that this road was a cycle/bus route only. But what I do have an argument with, is the Naas lane link road being closed. When I purchased my home, I was told that this road would be opening as soon as the road was laid. This road has now been laid for about 2 years, and is still not open! Its not wear & tear/fuel/time that I have an issue with, the issue I hold is that we are constantly having the Global Warming rubbish rammed down our throats, yet something as simple as openeing the link road would save me at least 10 miles a week! Clive, If the authorities are going to attempt to enforce the underpass, and I believe that anybody mounting the pavement should be done for reckless driving, then they need to get correct signage installed, as none of the current signage is compliant with legislation. I also dont think that the undrepass should be used, everybody who purchased a home on Kingsway was informed that this road was a cycle/bus route only.

But what I do have an argument with, is the Naas lane link road being closed. When I purchased my home, I was told that this road would be opening as soon as the road was laid. This road has now been laid for about 2 years, and is still not open!

Its not wear & tear/fuel/time that I have an issue with, the issue I hold is that we are constantly having the Global Warming rubbish rammed down our throats, yet something as simple as openeing the link road would save me at least 10 miles a week!

Clive, If the authorities are going to attempt to enforce the underpass, and I believe that anybody mounting the pavement should be done for reckless driving, then they need to get correct signage installed, as none of the current signage is compliant with legislation.

]]> By: tinktotonk http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/news/access-problems-again/#comment-2745 tinktotonk Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:12:29 +0000 http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/?p=2188#comment-2745 You have to think of why the route is a bus only route. It's to encourage people to leave the cars at home and walk, cycle of use the public transport system. I agree that you cant do your main weekly shop for a family of four walking or biking (unless your family eat next to nothing / you have huge arms), so we sometimes pop into Tesco or Sainsburys when we're on a journey in the car driving out of Gloucester. My view is that the bus only route shouldnt be open to cars (unless other routes are blocked for whatever reason) as people should utilise the environmentally sound option, or factor in their main weekly shop when they need to use the car for other journeys (reference to an earlier comment about the government advert). And hence, a reason to open the bus only route shouldnt be because it's quicker to get to Tesco. And finally, it's clearly not the environmentally friendly people dumping the trolleys; the clue is in "environmentally friendly"! You have to think of why the route is a bus only route. It’s to encourage people to leave the cars at home and walk, cycle of use the public transport system.
I agree that you cant do your main weekly shop for a family of four walking or biking (unless your family eat next to nothing / you have huge arms), so we sometimes pop into Tesco or Sainsburys when we’re on a journey in the car driving out of Gloucester.
My view is that the bus only route shouldnt be open to cars (unless other routes are blocked for whatever reason) as people should utilise the environmentally sound option, or factor in their main weekly shop when they need to use the car for other journeys (reference to an earlier comment about the government advert). And hence, a reason to open the bus only route shouldnt be because it’s quicker to get to Tesco.
And finally, it’s clearly not the environmentally friendly people dumping the trolleys; the clue is in "environmentally friendly"!

]]> By: Clive http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/news/access-problems-again/#comment-2744 Clive Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:06:05 +0000 http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/?p=2188#comment-2744 Hi beckym, Thanks for joining in :) The issue of opening up the road through underpass has been raised on numerous ocassions; sadly the Council Planning Dep't won't allow it, (they say that the traffic added to the Matalan road onto the Tesco roundabout would cause severe problems). Access is available for emergency vehicles (via a key fob system similar to the buses), 'though a former Kingsway resident who worked for the emergency services was struggling to get sufficient key fobs for all of the ambulances and fire engines stationed in Gloucester and the cost was ridiculous (around £1700 each if my memory is correct)! The problem of shopping trolleys dumped near the underpass is exacerbated by local kids (from Quedgeley and Kingsway) who like to ride them through the tunnel and leave them dumped all over the place... It is frustrating that people choose to steal the trolleys and dump them like that :evil: Salz, I agree with you - The traffic lights on the Cole Avenue / A38 junction are a complete joke. Sometimes it takes longer to cross them than to get from them into Gloucester city centre! Darreng / Tog, At the recent Police SCT meeting I was told that "non-qualifying traffic" using the underpass will be monitored in the very near future and that fines will be issued! Hi beckym,

Thanks for joining in :)

The issue of opening up the road through underpass has been raised on numerous ocassions; sadly the Council Planning Dep’t won’t allow it, (they say that the traffic added to the Matalan road onto the Tesco roundabout would cause severe problems).

Access is available for emergency vehicles (via a key fob system similar to the buses), ‘though a former Kingsway resident who worked for the emergency services was struggling to get sufficient key fobs for all of the ambulances and fire engines stationed in Gloucester and the cost was ridiculous (around £1700 each if my memory is correct)!

The problem of shopping trolleys dumped near the underpass is exacerbated by local kids (from Quedgeley and Kingsway) who like to ride them through the tunnel and leave them dumped all over the place… It is frustrating that people choose to steal the trolleys and dump them like that :evil:

Salz,
I agree with you – The traffic lights on the Cole Avenue / A38 junction are a complete joke. Sometimes it takes longer to cross them than to get from them into Gloucester city centre!

Darreng / Tog,
At the recent Police SCT meeting I was told that “non-qualifying traffic” using the underpass will be monitored in the very near future and that fines will be issued!

]]> By: beckym http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/news/access-problems-again/#comment-2739 beckym Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:01:27 +0000 http://www.kingsway-villagers.co.uk/?p=2188#comment-2739 It seems bizarre to me, too, that there are other ways in and out of Kingsway that are blocked off. The worst one being the bus route under the tunnel. I agree that walking and cycling are brilliant forms of transport, and when I am able I cycle about pulling my 2 little ones in a carriage. However, I do disagree that shopping is not a reason to open the barrier and that we should all be walking to Tesco. We are at present only a family of 4 and there is no way I could carry back all my shopping on foot or by bike, so I have to drive there. Perhaps the people who are so keen to make everyone walk to Tesco should go and collect all the abandoned shopping trolleys, that are presumably left by the 'environmentally friendly' walkers who have no other means of bringing their shopping home. Has anyone thought of appealing to Tesco and the shops on the retail park to help us get the road open? Those big businesses do hold a lot of clout. And Tesco might do better. After all, by the time you have driven down the dual carriageway, you might as well go to Sainsburys or even Asda just as easily as Tesco. But the real issue must be the access for emergency vehicles. I however, have no idea where they are based and whether they would need to come that way, but if it is even an option for them it MUST be made available. Anyway, there's my 2 pence worth! Thanks for reading! It seems bizarre to me, too, that there are other ways in and out of Kingsway that are blocked off. The worst one being the bus route under the tunnel.

I agree that walking and cycling are brilliant forms of transport, and when I am able I cycle about pulling my 2 little ones in a carriage.

However, I do disagree that shopping is not a reason to open the barrier and that we should all be walking to Tesco. We are at present only a family of 4 and there is no way I could carry back all my shopping on foot or by bike, so I have to drive there. Perhaps the people who are so keen to make everyone walk to Tesco should go and collect all the abandoned shopping trolleys, that are presumably left by the ‘environmentally friendly’ walkers who have no other means of bringing their shopping home.

Has anyone thought of appealing to Tesco and the shops on the retail park to help us get the road open? Those big businesses do hold a lot of clout. And Tesco might do better. After all, by the time you have driven down the dual carriageway, you might as well go to Sainsburys or even Asda just as easily as Tesco.

But the real issue must be the access for emergency vehicles. I however, have no idea where they are based and whether they would need to come that way, but if it is even an option for them it MUST be made available.

Anyway, there’s my 2 pence worth! Thanks for reading!

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